{"id":2430,"date":"2003-01-23T23:30:22","date_gmt":"2003-01-24T02:30:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/brockerhoff.net\/bb\/viewtopic.php?p=224"},"modified":"2003-01-23T23:30:22","modified_gmt":"2003-01-24T02:30:22","slug":"eldred-spider-revisited","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brockerhoff.net\/blog\/2003\/01\/23\/eldred-spider-revisited\/","title":{"rendered":"Eldred &amp; Spider revisited"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"\/bb\/viewtopic.php?p=212#212\">A week ago<\/a>, in a comment on the <a href=\"http:\/\/eldred.cc\/\">Eldred v. Ashcroft<\/a> decision, I pointed at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.spiderrobinson.com\/\">Spider Robinson<\/a>&#8216;s short story, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.baen.com\/chapters\/W200011\/0671319744___1.htm\">&#8220;Melancholy Elephants&#8221;<\/a>, where he argues against perpetual copyrights.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nDori Smith &amp; Tom Negrino&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.backupbrain.com\/\">Backup Brain<\/a> today <a href=\"http:\/\/www.backupbrain.com\/2003_01_19_archive.html#a003211\">points at<\/a> an editorial called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.globeandmail.com\/servlet\/ArticleNews\/printarticle\/gam\/20030122\/COSPIDERY\">&#8220;The Mouse&#8217;s pro Bono project&#8221;<\/a>, also written by Spider Robinson, about the decision.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nFirst of all, it seems that &#8220;Melancholy Elephants&#8221; won the <a href=\"http:\/\/worldcon.org\/hy.html#83\">1983 Hugo Award<\/a> for best short story. My apologies for overlooking that fact in my first comment.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nIn the editorial, Spider writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Prof. Lessig argues that Congress only has the right to permit copyright within limits: Apparently, in his view, 50 years is a limit but 70 somehow is not. To explore this, let&#8217;s shift perspective 180 degrees from Disney, and focus on the exact opposite end of the financial spectrum: me.<br \/>\n<br \/>\n&#8230;I&#8217;ve written 32 books so far. I believe I&#8217;ve earned what money they&#8217;ve brought me (and then some!), and I hope they&#8217;ll stay in print awhile after I&#8217;m gone.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nSo when I do snuff it, I&#8217;d like to leave them, and any money they may fetch (the wee percentage the publishers, producers and taxmen won&#8217;t keep) to my daughter Terri &#8212; just like any other craftsman would. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s an outrageous, capitalist-pig desire: It&#8217;s a large part of why the stories exist in the first place.<br \/>\n<br \/>\n&#8230;I wish we were done with irony now. &#8220;Melancholy Elephants&#8221; was originally dedicated to the remarkable Virginia Heinlein, Robert Heinlein&#8217;s widow. On Jan. 18, Ginny passed away in her sleep in Florida, surrounded by family and friends. She leaves several descendants &#8211; one 3 years old &#8211; and I don&#8217;t see why they should get ripped off because &#8220;information wants to be free.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nWell, I sympathize with Spider&#8217;s point&#8230; up to a point. Certainly individual author&#8217;s surviving spouses and children should be entitled to continue holding the copyright for a reasonable time &#8211; perhaps for the lifetime of the spouse and until the children reach majority or a certain age. I&#8217;m not sure I agree about grandchildren or great-grandchildren&#8230;<br \/>\n<br \/>\nI certainly don&#8217;t think that corporations should be similarly entitled, or for the same time span as individuals; the humanitarian argument certainly is inappropriate here. 95 years, as currently established, is clearly aimed solely at protecting the interests of a very small minority of powerful corporations.<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/cyberlaw.stanford.edu\/lessig\/blog\/\">Lawrence Lessig<\/a> has published a <a href=\"http:\/\/cyberlaw.stanford.edu\/lessig\/blog\/archives\/2003_01.shtml#000882\">very interesting proposal<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;I describe a proposal that would move more work into the public domain than a total victory in the Supreme Court would have. The basic idea is this: 50 years after a work has been &#8220;published,&#8221; a copyright owner would be required to pay a copyright tax. That tax should be extremely low &#8211; this proposal says $50, but it could be $1. If the copyright holder does not pay the tax for 3 years, then the work is forfeit to the public domain. If the copyright holder does pay the tax, then its contacting agent would be made a matter of public record. Very quickly we would have a cheap, searchable record, of what work is controlled and what work is free.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\nThis sounds both effective (at least in its intent to revive the public domain) and doable, although it fails to distinguish between individual and corporate copyright owners. Raising the value &#8211; say, to $50,000 &#8211; would only give the Disneys another unfair advantage, as this would still be insignificant to them. Hm&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A week ago, in a comment on the Eldred v. Ashcroft decision, I pointed at Spider Robinson&#8216;s short story, &#8220;Melancholy Elephants&#8221;, where he argues against perpetual copyrights. Dori Smith &amp; Tom Negrino&#8217;s Backup Brain today points at an editorial called &#8220;The Mouse&#8217;s pro Bono project&#8221;, also written by Spider Robinson, about the decision. 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